![]() 02/08/2018 at 12:46 • Filed to: Planelopnik | ![]() | ![]() |
Okay...so this one isn’t as crazy as the Peacock one, but really; flush the animal down a toilet? Aside from unnecessary animal abuse, wouldn’t this completely screw up the plumbing? The animal is super tiny, just let her fly with the hamster.
And for the girl, give the animal to a kid or a family departing a flight? You didn’t need to drown it...
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Side note (separate from this story) : I think people would take Emotional Support Animals more seriously if it weren’t so crazy easy to certify literally any animal as an ESA. They don’t have to meet really any of the requirements and training a service animal would.
Sometimes all it takes is a doctor saying that an animal can help the person’s emotions be stable... And sometimes you don’t even have to visit a doctor to get the letter . This is how you get emotional support Peacocks and other weird animals with no real proof that they’re actually necessary.
The ADA should probably eventually put some base level groundwork for ESAs so people with less than great intentions don’t abuse the system and ruin it for people with real issues.
Edit: Updated title for less click-bait.
![]() 02/08/2018 at 12:54 |
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Is needing emotional support a disability?
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Needing emotional support in itself may not be, however the situations that cause that need to be there (in this case, the person experienced Depression because of the growth on their body possibly being cancerous) in the first place can be.
![]() 02/08/2018 at 13:00 |
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She did it herself so I don’t think she was too emotionly attached to it.
I agree with you that’s it’s too easy. My niece’s dog is classified that way just so she can have a dog in a apartment.
02/08/2018 at 13:04 |
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Yeah, not buying it; this sounds another bit of “performance art”, just like the idiot with the peacock and a hundred other “doing it for teh lulz/fame” stories from the past couple years.
![]() 02/08/2018 at 13:04 |
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Like, what the actual fuck? I feel bad for the woman since she got incorrect information from the airline and was forced to make a tough decision.
But.
But.
Other, better options:
1) hide hamster in your shirt, at least until you’re in the plane and then stick hamster into your backpack or whatever
2) find a family post-security and be like “hey, who wants a feee hamster?”
3) let it go outside and at least HAVE A CHANCE to survive-ish. Or at least get eaten by a wild airport cat and be a part of the circle of life.
4) any fucking thing else other than drowning / flushing the LIVING hamster. Omg.
People. I’m done with them.
![]() 02/08/2018 at 13:16 |
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If the hamster alleviated a symptom of her disability then it would be considered an ESA, but without a doctor documenting her disability and the impact her pet had on the symptoms, I don’t think this was an ESA. Pets make people feel good, that’s generally why people get them, but that doesn’t mean every pet is an emotional support animal.
Also the story states she felt “frazzled” which doesn’t sound like any diagnosed psychiatric or intellectual disability I’ve ever heard of, let alone depression. But forget all that since she flushed a living animal down the toilet to keep her later flight and Spirit Air explicitly states no rodents on their website.
![]() 02/08/2018 at 13:21 |
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Yeah, that’s fair enough! Didn’t think of it like that. I also somehow missed the line that she actually did it. I mean, damn.
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That’s pretty cold blooded. Hell I’d drive back if it were a pet I was emotionally attached to.
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I’ve had people tell me they’ve gone online and bought a certificate so they could rent somewhere that doesn’t allow pets and so they can fly with them
![]() 02/08/2018 at 13:33 |
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Sounds like poor Pebbles went on anadventure. Hopefully he learned how to handle it from South Park.
![]() 02/08/2018 at 13:43 |
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I’m not a fan of ESAs, it sounds ok on paper but all I’ve ever heard come of it is people bringing their random pets places where they shouldn’t be. I have no problems with actually service animals but I don’t think your pet peacock or Water Monitor should be allowed on a plane, or in a restaurant for example.
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As long as she takes care of her dog and it’s not a menace I’m okay with that. Too many landlords are shotgunning good tenants who don’t leave a mess. It’s okay to deny pets on the first round, but maybe consider it for people who aren’t slobs.
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This is such an abused system. I think places and services should ban ESAs until there’s a legitimate system in place. I have yet to meet a person with one that was legitimate. However, I have met a couple people with a friend or family member with legitimate cases.
I was at a restaurant last fall where there was a “ESA” dog that was so poorly behaved it kept trying to jump up and steal food off tables.
I’ve known people who buy the certificate online so they can rent places that don’t allow pets or for flights. It’s a severe disservice to those that have ESAs as legitimate therapy
![]() 02/08/2018 at 14:18 |
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It’s a 200 lb retriever mix and she’s on the third floor. It’s just like the handicap placards. A great idea ruined by selfish people.
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I call bullshit.
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Pretty much.
At least in California DMV is starting to crack down on people illegally using handicapped placards.
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So do most people realize that their wastewater lines aren’t usually FULL of water/waste? That hamster most likely survived the initial flush, only to die in some unthinkably horrible way down the line. Or it might still be alive. That was in no way humane. She would have been better off to have beaten it to death with her shoe in front of the airline rep.
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She should have known better. I suspect she called and referred to the animal as a service animal and not a support animal.
Too many people do not realize that a service animal is providing life saving functions and are protected. Support animals have no oversight and are not protected. Doctors will write anything if you pay the copay.
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Apparently you don’t even need your doctor to write it either. There are websites where if you pay a fee then chat up a rando doc online/on the phone, you can have one signed and mailed to you.
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That’s crazy. It doesn’t help that you can also buy the service dog vest on amazon. Most people won’t even question at that point due to backlash.
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Not much of a support animal if you have the willpower to flush it down the toilet
![]() 02/09/2018 at 05:12 |
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could’ve given it away surely?